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  • July 29, 2014 at 12:46 pm #2572
    Racclut
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    My question is about floggers made from “porous” materials that may retain bodily fluids such as natural body oils and sweat for instance. What is the correct etiquette for using a porous flogger. Some rope bondage people say ropes should only be used on one person then gifted to that person due to the absorbency of the material. That thought process got me to wonder about the etiquette with floggers.
    So what happens to a leather, paracord or other porous material flogger which can absorb body fluids? Does it get gifted or will it see continuous use?
    Thanks in advance

    July 29, 2014 at 12:48 pm #2573
    Saidin
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    I have certain floggers I use only on my slave and many others that are “communal”. I have enough that I can hang used ones up for a month or so to air out to avoid possible BBP transmission.

    What you are asking is correct though. Leather can absorb anything on the skin or under it if the skin is broken.

    July 29, 2014 at 12:52 pm #2574
    Trabut
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    It is the same with floggers, The educate is that one flogger should be for one person. But rarely in a bar scene is it the case. I myself have used the same gloves publicly for now 9 years But, I have a alcohol spray, wash my leather lightly with dextrous soap, a hospital only acquirable substance. BUT, still I have contracted MRSA from a open zit on a girl’s ass.

    Let me tell you a story about the hospitals here in Toronto. One of them, had a problem with an OR one of the most sterile environments on the planet. Every operation ended with the patient contracting MRSA. They narrowed it down to the doctor’s farts. They have subsequently stated testing EVERYONE coming in the door. In 2005 I hosted a night that did blood play on a stage in the venue… I would NEVER do now. Times change.

    July 29, 2014 at 12:54 pm #2575
    Ribut1974
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    If any blood gets on a flogger, from that moment it only gets used on that person.

    Normal sweat and dirt, I would clean with a normal leather preparation and air.
    Anti bac will destroy the leather over time, so if the flogger isn’t in constant use, use very sparingly.
    Most non blood born infections do not live long outside the body.

    If it is being used on multiple people regularly, then an anti bac must come into play followed by a conditioner.

    July 29, 2014 at 12:57 pm #2576
    Geolas
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    I like the idea of letting communal floggers “rest” for a month. Gives the unwanted stuff a chance to go to the coodies graveyard.

    The thing about leather is it absorbs stuff. When I was a volunteer firefighter any time gear made of leather got any fluid (when injuries were involved) on it they would be destroyed and new gear issued. You can imagine the amount of expensive leather gloves we went through. For the same reason the boots were of synthetic materials. Guess I am a bit paranoid from the old days.

    At least with paracord it can be run through the washing machine with some soap and bleach. Effectively making it safely reusable.

    What is Dextrous Soap? Google seems to have a hard time with that term. Is there a spelling error possibly?

    It is true that most germs do not fair well outside the body. That is always a plus when dealing with unwanted contamination. That can be the first line of defense, use their own weakness against them.

    July 29, 2014 at 12:59 pm #2577
    Batione
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    Let’s talk about science, according to the Center for Disease Control

    “How long does the Hepatitis C virus survive outside the body?

    The Hepatitis C virus can survive outside the body at room temperature, on environmental surfaces, for at least 16 hours but no longer than 4 days.

    HIV does not survive long outside the human body (such as on surfaces), and it cannot reproduce. It is not spread by

    Air or water.
    Insects, including mosquitoes or ticks.
    Saliva, tears, or sweat. There is no documented case of HIV being transmitted by spitting.
    Casual contact like shaking hands or sharing dishes.
    Closed-mouth or “social” kissing
    Toilet seats.”

    I couldn’t find the source doc, but as I remember in order for HIV to remain viable outside of the human body the infected blood must remain moist and its life span was still only hours. So if you are using floggers on multiple partners, the wipe them down and let them dry for a couple of days will ensure that the two nastiest bugs are dead. I seriously doubt that folks using the same floggers on different people during the same session will take time out to clean their instruments, for them I recommend fluid bonding. I for one rarely draw blood with my floggers (I have other toys that are much more fun for that). Remember most of the myths about HIV and how it spreads are from the bad old days when it was the boogie man and we had no knowledge in regards to methods of transmission. When all else fails fall back on science.

    Just my 2 cents.

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