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Intentookey
ParticipantI had issues last yr.. I was so bad I went into a Dr’s appointment for a check up and follow up on other things, and as soon as my Dr walked in, he told me he was sending me to the ER and to expect to have emergency surgery. I went in on Valentines day and the dumb ass in the ER sent me home with meds and said to set up an appointment on Monday and to take the meds to keep the pain at bay.
Sometime over the next few days I ended up back in the ER and rushed to emergency surgery.. When it was done and over, I had like 18-25 stones The ultrasound isnt completely clear but we can see at least 18 though was told there might be more Anyway I didnt even know I was having gallbladder issues although after the last surgery I ended up having three cause the Dr rushed through the first surgery and caused a tear but he did tell me I should have had it removed yrs ago.
So I would suggest you get it looked at, and really if you are having pain that is a 7 or above you should go to the ER. If you pass one or more, they can cause tears or blockage and this will cause even more problems. And if it is as bad as mine you might simply need to get it removed.
As those say anything can cause it to move, walking, sex, flogging, you name it, the thing is you need to get it checked and make sure there isn’t anything else going on or it hasn’t caused anymore problems.
Good Luck
Huchicark80
ParticipantThere is a group called “Justine’s List” and it has access to all sorts of professionals, and there are some medical doctors listed. I have used the services and received very good information and also they asked me for a follow up once we figured out exactly what I had back home. You might just avail yourself of this free service.
My gall bladder attacks always come after I eat something greasy or pork meal which I try desperately to avoid now that I know the triggers. And, it is like a hot iron being put on my right side just below my ribs. I’ve paced the floor for hours with it but now watch what I eat and do not have a problem. And after flogging, I have never had any pain.
I would strongly suggest talking to someone on Justine’s list. Good luck.
Pegglind
ParticipantUnless a physician posts something, let me offer this as a medical professional (EMT, NURSE, Certified Professional Coder -emergency medicine specialty)..
It’s not likely that most flogging can cause a stone to move. These puppies are not round and smooth, they tend to lodge themselves and come in different sizes. They also can be so numerous they can FILL the gallbladder and common bile duct. At that point you are going to surgery. The other issue which can happen quickly or can take awhile is cholecystitis, an infection of the gallbladder. If you develop stones and cystitis of the gallbladder, it’s coming out. Good luck and as others have said, follow through with getting medical attention please.
ParticipantSo sir recently bought some new toys, a set of some lovely hand made floggers ranging from rabbits fur to suade then onto leather.
Any advice on how I can get better at taking a beating so that I can please him better? Normally I’m fine but I get a bigger sting from floggers. Cheers in advance.Aboughtters
ParticipantA talk with your Sir might help since he’s the one wielding the floggers. You might need a more gradual buildup with a solid chunk of warmup time before getting into the heavier impact in order to allow your endorphin levels to build.
Thoillody
ParticipantYour will to please your sir is commendable, however, I believe it is up to him to learn how to use them properly and safely first, learn everything about you second(w/negotiations), and pushing your limits should be last(w/proper warm up and ramp down). In my opinion….
There are many other variables to consider also ie.time of the month, sum of your work week, physical or mental ailments, just to name a few….but there’s alot more.
I hope that helps 🙂
Youds1949
ParticipantTwo things that have helped me in my desire to take more during impact play as a bottom had been learning/ remembering to take deep breaths along with my normal moans/ sounds (so finding a breathing pattern that works for you might help you) and also learning to “let go”/ relax mid mind and muscles and just the the pain happen. This has definitely allowed me to take a greater intensity as a bottom than before, which has lead to greater enjoyment/ release for me during impact scenes.
Your experience may vary, but I just thought Id share mine.
Oh, also don’t beat yourself up if you sometimes can’t handle the normal intensity you two play at. I’ve found that some days or when I get tired my pain tolerance gets much lower than normal and I know many other people experience this as well.Thich1979
ParticipantI would add that when you talk to your Sir (as I’m sure you will), see if time expended or number of strokes can be limited and built up over time. I started taking short floggings of as little as 24 strokes and am now at about 84, my goal is to get past 150. The more you can take, the heavier the floggers he can use and the more pleased he will be.
As for the sub-space, I find mentally counting helps (also useful if he asks for a count as a test!). Hair pulling, clothes pegs on sensitive areas… there are all kinds of distractions that can be used (lying on a bed of thumb tacks really helps)… you get the idea!
ParticipantSome rules for a girl before she submits to the whip:
1. She must be absolutely sure of the man intentions.
2. She must have perfect confidence in his judgment.
3. The pain must be deliberately inflicted, not accidental.
4. It must be inflicted in kindness and for her own improvement, not in anger or with any revengeful feelings.
5. The pain must not be excessive and must be a ‘tidy’ pain; i.e., there must be no mutilation, cutting, etc.
6. Last, one would have to feel very sure of one’s own influence over the man.Therty
Participant#6 – ‘Influence” in this case I believe would be the ability to stop a scene or direct the flogging to an appropriate / desired level.
I was once whipped by a woman who would not stop. Fortunately she was not very good at bondage and I was able to catch the whip and stop the scene.
Note: She was total novice off of ‘Craig’s List’. That was my bad and I did it for the adventure. Then again I’m a guy in fairly good shape. I don’t recommend this to people in general.
Harawas
Participant#4 – I don’t whip a man to “improve” him. I am applying the whip because he enjoys receiving pain and I enjoy inflicting it. Also, as a sadist, I don’t know if I’m especially “kind” while doing so; that likely depends on your viewpoint. I do agree with not playing while angry, though.
Pannour
Participanti think its a good list for a NEW submissive, but like others said number 4,5 and 6 really depends on who you are, and the type of thing you like, but for a new sub who has never experienced being whipped it would probably be best for the person whipping them to be kind about it, but it doesn’t really apply to all people who enjoy being whipped. Also when making “rules” you need to remember that other people who play don’t always do it that way, it would be better as suggestions instead Rules, that way you don’t spark up a disagreement you don’t want to get yourself in, or get a shit ton of reply’s solely about your “Rules” being incorrect, that being said if you are trying to word things so they can apply to others make sure they actually make sense and are easily understood, 6 while it is good, is a bit hard for people to understand. the first few are great, they apply to being whipped all across the board. the last few are kind of unnecessary and don’t apply, some people, myself included enjoy extensive, intense pain when being whipped, though that may not be good for someone just starting out, its what many people like. anyway enough of my ramblings, the first 3 rules are fantastic, the last are less than, they should be included as mere suggestions.
Participant“As long as those you play with understand this. Otherwise you become an anecdotal account of an encounter that went wrong, with the story-teller mistaking your sadistic motivation for amateur behavior.”
More likely she doesn’t actually play.“…….the first few are great, they apply to being whipped all across the board. the last few are kind of unnecessary and don’t apply, some people, myself included enjoy extensive, intense pain when being whipped, though that may not be good for someone just starting out, its what many people like. anyway enough of my ramblings, the first 3 rules are fantastic, the last are less than, they should be included as mere suggestions.”
Thank you for that nice, well thought out replay. I do think I should NOT have said “rules” or at least said “rules for me”.
I do enjoy something intense, at least by my standards, something that will at least make me cry. And maybe therein lies the problem. I need complete trust if I’m going to do something intense. Maybe as I gain more experience that will be less necessary.
ParticipantI have finally mastered this technique and find it fascinating. I would be interested in the thoughts of subs who have been on the receiving end of Florentine flogging and how in their opinion the feelings and sensations compare to the traditional one handed technique.
Thouls
Participantwhat type of floggers are you using, mine have Handles and i find it complicated
so i ordered 2 new floggers better suited for Florentine, these new floggers have a ball instead on the normal handle -
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